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Free 1000 Youtube Subscribers Services - YTpals, Subpals, SubmeNow Test

ConsumerWatch / Internet Feb 17, 2018 - 12:54 PM GMT

By: N_Walayat

ConsumerWatch

Youtube on the 20th of January decided to cut all small channels loose from their partner programme, all those channels with less than 1000 subscribers and 4k watch time who by the 20th of February will be ejected from the Youtube partner programme that amongst several benefits included monetization of videos which in most cases for Youtubers resulted in a token return of typically about $10 per month. So the blow for being ejected from the youtube partner programme is not financial but rather Youtube effectively telling its smaller youtubers to get lost, as effectively Youtube is now no longer YOUtube but instead it's Celebtube or Adtube, really just another broadcast channel full of commercialised content full of ads and NOT what YOUtube has been for the past 10 years!


Nevertheless, Youtube's announcement galvanised those Youtubers within a whisker of the targets to try and meet Youtube new minimum threshold, by trying to get subscribers which basically involves subscribing to other youtube channels in exchange for a subscribe to their own channel which brings us to the FREE Youtube subscriber service websites such as YTpals.com, Subpals.com and Submenow.com amongst a dozen others.

The free youtube subscriber sites work by basically offering 1 free subscriber for every 2 subscribes made to other youtube channels through their sites. The sites then sell on the extra subscribes to paying customers. So if one signed upto 100 channels, then one would expect to receive 50 subscribes in return.

But just how reliable are these sites in delivering on their promises, do you actually get 1 for 2 or is the ratio far off then their sales pitch?

To find out we TESTED the 3 services mentioned, to see what would happen if we subscribed to hundreds of channels through their sites over a 2 week period, with the specifications of what the services demanded and promised being:

Submenow.com : Subscribe and like 20 or 30 channels to get 10 or 15 in return over the next 24 hours. One use per 24 hours.

YTPals.com : Subscribe 20 and like 40 and get 20 subscribes in the next 12 hours. Can use this service twice in 24 hours.

Subpals.com : Subscribe 20 and like 40 and get 20 subscribes in the next 24 hours. Can use this service twice in 24 hours, and virtually identical to YTPal.coms

At the start of this test for free subscribers, the test channel had 821 subscribers, with the objective being to reach 1000 subscribers, and starting at subscriptions 100 per day we estimated we should reach that total within just 4 or 5 days time i.e. at least 200 subscribers added to the channel taking the subscriber tally to 1021. Here's what actually happened:

Subbed Running total Subs expected Channel Sub Count Actual Subs Gained Subs Deficit Subs % of expected received
Start 821
Day1 54 54 27 835 14 -13 52%
Day2 100 154 77 842 21 -56 27%
Day3 100 254 127 876 55 -72 43%
Day4 80 334 167 895 74 -93 44%
Day5 90 424 212 923 102 -110 48%
Day6 110 534 267 931 110 -157 41%
Day7 110 644 322 948 127 -195 39%
Day8 0 644 322 942 121 -201 38%
Day9 30 674 337 957 136 -201 40%
Day10 50 724 362 967 146 -216 40%
Day11 20 744 372 981 160 -212 43%
Day12 50 794 397 992 171 -226 43%
Day13 50 844 422 1005 184 -238 44%
Day14 50 894 447 997 176 -271 39%

 

Results:

The starting subscriber count was 821. Subscriptions made to 894 channels and so expectations were to receive about 447 subscribes in return.

Actual number of subscribes received is 176, a short fall of 271 subscribers or about 1/3rd the expected number, thus bringing the total count to 997 on the 14th day down from an observed peak of 1012 subscribers.

So whilst the free youtube subscriber services did deliver subscribers, however the actual number received is nowhere near that which they purport to deliver, only 1/3rd. Which means if you subscribe to 1000 channels you will likely receive about 180 subscribes instead of the expected 500, which is a huge difference!

The reason for this disparity is clear when we look at the channels subscribers graph which clearly demonstrates that the subscribers received from these services don't tend to stick! Not even for a few hours!

The graph shows 337 Subscribers gained whilst 148 subscribers were lost for a net 189. So nearly half of subscribers through these services tend to be UNSUBSCRIBED shortly after subscribing. Our observations were that the channel subscriber count would rise and fall during the day as many of those who had subscribed a few hours later would be either busy UNSUBSCRIBING FROM THE CHANNELS that they had just subscribed to, and probably Youtube was also busy removing them.

This behaviour purportedly results in a life time ban from the services, but given that it is rampant then the ban is likely is not being implemented in most cases, else there would not be so many unsubscribe's. Digging deeper reveals why this may be happening is because Youtube limits the number of channels most small channels can subscribe to 2000. So it clearly means that those who continue to use these services to gain free exchange subscribers after reaching 2000 have to keep un subscribing from channels which is the Achilles heel for these services, as the quality of subscribers they are offering to their free users at least is frankly rubbish, unreliable as the erosion in subscriber count illustrates. Again Youtube also plays some part in the equation of removing recent subscribers.

So yes, whilst you can gain some free subscribers, the actual number and quality of subscribers received tends to be very poor. Which means if for instance one is thinking one can go from 100 to 1000 subscribers through use of these services, then that is just never going to happen as you will hit your maximum channels number long before you even get to 400 let alone the 1000 target.

Furthermore you also end up ruining your youtube experience as now your home page is now clogged up with garbage that you have no intension's of ever watching as a consequence all of your hundreds of subscribes and likes.

The bottom line there is no short cut to getting to 1000 subscribers, and the path the free services offer involves a lot of hard work for little reward, as the free subscribes don't tend to stick with half un subscribing within a few hours after subscribing, and it remains to be seen how many of the rest evaporate over the coming days, weeks and months. In fact I think youtubers will be better off just contacting suitable channels themselves and asking for an exchange subscribe for that is likely to be more reliable then subscribers gained through these free subscriber exchange services. So it's probably best to focus on that which matters the most which is to concentrate on creating quality content.

By Nadeem Walayat

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk

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Nadeem Walayat has over 30 years experience of trading derivatives, portfolio management and analysing the financial markets, including one of few who both anticipated and Beat the 1987 Crash. Nadeem's forward looking analysis focuses on UK inflation, economy, interest rates and housing market. He is the author of five ebook's in the The Inflation Mega-Trend and Stocks Stealth Bull Market series that can be downloaded for Free.

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