Most Popular
1. It’s a New Macro, the Gold Market Knows It, But Dead Men Walking Do Not (yet)- Gary_Tanashian
2.Stock Market Presidential Election Cycle Seasonal Trend Analysis - Nadeem_Walayat
3. Bitcoin S&P Pattern - Nadeem_Walayat
4.Nvidia Blow Off Top - Flying High like the Phoenix too Close to the Sun - Nadeem_Walayat
4.U.S. financial market’s “Weimar phase” impact to your fiat and digital assets - Raymond_Matison
5. How to Profit from the Global Warming ClImate Change Mega Death Trend - Part1 - Nadeem_Walayat
7.Bitcoin Gravy Train Trend Forecast 2024 - - Nadeem_Walayat
8.The Bond Trade and Interest Rates - Nadeem_Walayat
9.It’s Easy to Scream Stocks Bubble! - Stephen_McBride
10.Fed’s Next Intertest Rate Move might not align with popular consensus - Richard_Mills
Last 7 days
Stocks, Bitcoin, Gold and Silver Markets Brief - 18th Feb 25
Harnessing Market Insights to Drive Financial Success - 18th Feb 25
Stock Market Bubble 2025 - 11th Feb 25
Fed Interest Rate Cut Probability - 11th Feb 25
Global Liquidity Prepares to Fire Bull Market Booster Rockets - 11th Feb 25
Stock Market Sentiment Speaks: A Long-Term Bear Market Is Simply Impossible Today - 11th Feb 25
A Stock Market Chart That’s Out of This World - 11th Feb 25
These Are The Banks The Fed Believes Will Fail - 11th Feb 25
S&P 500: Dangerous Fragility Near Record High - 11th Feb 25
Stocks, Bitcoin and Crypto Markets Get High on Donald Trump Pump - 10th Feb 25
Bitcoin Break Out, MSTR Rocket to the Moon! AI Tech Stocks Earnings Season - 10th Feb 25
Liquidity and Inflation - 10th Feb 25
Gold Stocks Valuation Anomaly - 10th Feb 25
Stocks, Bitcoin and Crypto's Under President Donald Pump - 8th Feb 25
Transition to a New Global Monetary System - 8th Feb 25
Betting On Outliers: Yuri Milner and the Art of the Power Law - 8th Feb 25
President Black Swan Slithers into the Year of the Snake, Chaos Rules! - 2nd Feb 25
Trump's Squid Game America, a Year of Black Swans and Bull Market Pumps - 24th Jan 25
Japan Interest Rate Hike - Black Swan Panic Event Incoming? - 23rd Jan 25
It's Five Nights at Freddy's Again! - 12th Jan 25
Squid Game Stock Market 2025 - 5th Jan 25

Market Oracle FREE Newsletter

How to Protect your Wealth by Investing in AI Tech Stocks

Comparing Job Losses and Investment Opportunities in Post WWII Recessions

Stock-Markets / Stocks Bear Market Jul 08, 2009 - 01:58 PM GMT

By: Mike_Shedlock

Stock-Markets

Best Financial Markets Analysis ArticleMinyanville Professor Tony Dwyer posted an interesting chart yesterday about recessions and payrolls that is worth a look.



Professor Dywer commented:

"The long awaited correction is finally showing up in the index prices. The equity market has been weakening internally since mid-April following a historic rally off the March low. I continue to expect the market to follow the 2002-2003 playbook that suggests the S&P 500 (SPX) should move back toward the mid-to-low 800s as the non-government credit markets continue to improve and hold the historic gains.

I've been waiting for the correction to become a more aggressive buyer as long as credit held the gains. The dramatic government intervention and historic improvement in credit, coupled with the cash buildup by investors should protect the downside and lead to a second half rally, while a weak economic recovery should keep the market from running too far ahead of itself into 2010.

While the correction may cause many to focus on the still problematic economic influences, the good news is the 2nd derivative improvement in just about all the macroeconomic indicators suggests the recession is very close to being over.

As an example, since the 1940's, every time the quarterly change in payrolls adjusted for the size of the labor force reaches a low and turns, it was the last quarter of the recession. The significant headwinds facing the consumer should limit the economic recovery, but there is sure to be a least a temporary recovery that should show up in higher stock prices by the end of the year.

I've been waiting for the correction to use the liquidity as an opportunity to become more aggressive and see no reason to change that plan. When the SPX moves back toward the mid-to-low 800s, I'll add to equity market exposure with a particular focus in Information Technology and Health Care."

Everyone it seems is waiting to buy the dip. Can it be that easy?

Perhaps it can, as the herd is often right. However, recessions since 2000 don't exactly seem to be playing out like other post WWII recessions.

Please consider the following chart from Calculated Risk on Job Losses In Post WWII Recessions.



The above chart shows that this recession is not comparable to other post WW2 downturns. Indeed, modern day payroll data are not directly comparable with any of the data prior to 1990.

Perhaps the recession is over soon, but given the shape of the curves above, can we expect a typical recovery in the stock market and the economy? There certainly may be a recovery that will show up in stock prices by the end of the year, but being sure of a rally is a bit overconfident.

The bottom could indeed be in, even thought it fundamentally does not feel like it should be.

The model I think we may be following looks like this.

Nikkei Japan Index 1980-Present



Technically there is room for huge rallies, but there is also room for plenty of misery (for both bulls and bears). The key will be to stay nimble as the opportunities that present themselves may not follow traditional post WWII recovery patterns.

By Mike "Mish" Shedlock
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com

Click Here To Scroll Thru My Recent Post List

Mike Shedlock / Mish is a registered investment advisor representative for SitkaPacific Capital Management . Sitka Pacific is an asset management firm whose goal is strong performance and low volatility, regardless of market direction.

Visit Sitka Pacific's Account Management Page to learn more about wealth management and capital preservation strategies of Sitka Pacific.

I do weekly podcasts every Thursday on HoweStreet and a brief 7 minute segment on Saturday on CKNW AM 980 in Vancouver.

When not writing about stocks or the economy I spends a great deal of time on photography and in the garden. I have over 80 magazine and book cover credits. Some of my Wisconsin and gardening images can be seen at MichaelShedlock.com .

© 2009 Mike Shedlock, All Rights Reserved

Mike Shedlock Archive

© 2005-2022 http://www.MarketOracle.co.uk - The Market Oracle is a FREE Daily Financial Markets Analysis & Forecasting online publication.


Post Comment

Only logged in users are allowed to post comments. Register/ Log in